Hohner Professional 36 internal adhesive/sealant

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  • #3866

    Shannon M
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    Recently acquired a Professional 36. Uses reed plates instead of individual reeds. Overall good condition, but it does have a minor air leak. Not really a problem with playing, but condensation leaks out around lower end cap and it gurgles a bit after extended playing. Upon dis-assembly, found leak at end of air chamber-adhesive/sealant has failed where it seats in end-cap. Wondering what the adhesive used actually is. It is very hard, golden colored. Doesn’t seem to melt. Wondering if anyone has repaired similar problem and what they used to seal leak.

    Thanks

    #3867

    Melodica-Me
    Participant

    Hello Shannon, If your melodica uses a reed plate it is a Piano-36. The Professional 36 only uses individual reeds. The Piano-36 is considered a “Professional” melodica so many tend to call it the Professional 36. what you can use is some bees wax like what they use in accordions for a quick fix. go on Ebay you will find it there, see the link below. you can carefully push it in the areas that leak. I have used this in the past for small leaks, Note: the professional 36 reeds sit on bees wax prior to bolting as the Vibrandoneon, and most accordion reeds.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-HOHNER-Parts-Accordion-Repair-German-Reed-Wax-250-Grams-/231286022366?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35d9b8a0de

    Melodica-Me
    Mosters of Melodica

    #3868

    Shannon M
    Participant

    Melodic-me,
    thanks for the rapid response. I really appreciate all that you have contributed here-I have read it all 8^). The melodica I am discussing is not a piano 36. It is a professional 36–I have both. Having dis-assembled it I can assure you it does indeed have reed plates. Perhaps the first ones had individual reeds–I cannot attest to that. I have considered using either beeswax or “reed wax” , which I am sure you know is a blend of beeswax and pine rosin, but I was wondering if anyone knows what the original adhesive is. It definitely is not a wax blend-it does not melt with a heat application. I have no problem with making repairs. Just trying to do it right.

    thx

    #3870

    Melodica-Me
    Participant

    Shannon, not sure what they may have used since none of the Hohners I own have that adhesive, more than likely the previous owner may have just used some adhesive he found at the hardware store. I don’t know if you can scrape it off with care without damaging the Melodica. Take some pictures so we can get a better understanding of the condition. Plus I really want to see the model you have. I have never seen a Professional 36 with reed plates and would like to hear it to compare to the individual Reed one.
    Thanks
    Melodica-Me

    #3871

    Adam Tombs
    Participant

    Hi there,

    I was looking at a professional 36 (labelled so) on the bay of evil and Lo and behold, there was the white cap on the plug, on the moisture drain at the end of the melodica, just like my Piano 36. My professional has single reeds and no drain plug ( my professional drains moisture underneath via a button activated drain).

    I wonder if this other one with the white capped drain plug is indeed the reed plate equipped variety of the Professional 36?

    #3873

    Melodica-Me
    Participant

    Just want to add. My professional 36 has a drain cap and has the single reeds, my Solist has no drain plug, drains from the rear via a button and has single reeds.
    melodica-Me

    #3875

    Shannon M
    Participant

    Mine also has the capped drain like the piano 36. Wooden end caps, just a hole for the mouthpiece, no stem. I don’t think the sealant was a sloppy repair-it is also used to seal the reed plates. It appears to have been placed before the reed plates were attached. it is very hard and brittle, not sure how easy it might be to remove.

    I am hoping to have some time within the next week to open it back up and effect a repair. I will take some pictures to share. As far as the tone, it is definitely warmer and smoother than the piano 36. Action of keyboard is also a step up, as you might expect. It is a shame Hohner bailed on the professional models.

    #3876

    Melodica-Me
    Participant

    Shannon, when you opened your pro 36 did you recall how the reed plates were attached? Screws or just adhesive. Would you say that the reed plate is the same as the piano 36? Or a completely different type of reed plate. We’re the plates steel or bronze? Your professional 36 has really got my attention here. Just throwing this out there, do you think that someone may have replaced the single reeds with piano 36 plates?.

    If anyone else has a Professional 36 that has the same set up I would really like to see and hear it. I would like to add one to my Hohner collection. I am also looking for basso 24L (left handed Basso Melodica’s)

    I am sure I will hear from Alan on this illness of mine LOl

    Daren, wow what about a selling, trading or parts section on the site?

    Melodica-Me

    #3877

    Adam Tombs
    Participant

    I second the idea of a trading post on these forums.

    #3878

    Shannon M
    Participant

    the reed plates were attached with screws. it appears that the sealer may have been put down first, then the reed plates were attached. the plates were bronze. I have not opened my piano 36, so I can’t say if they are the same or not. Maybe I will pop the back off the piano 36 and compare. I don’t think the reed plates are a replacement for single reeds, but I honestly didn’t think of that when I was looking at it. I will scrutinize more thoroughly next time. 8^)

    I ordered some reed wax. When it arrives I will open things up and share what I find. I am rather surprised this is garnering such interest. I thought I was asking a rather mundane question. 8^P

    #3887
    Daren Banarsë
    Daren Banarsë
    Keymaster

    Hi Shannon, really looking forward to seeing some photos, sounds like you have a very unique Pro 36. Mine also has individual reeds, as opposed to the multi-reedplate layout you have.

    MM and Adam, I’ve added a new forum as requested 🙂

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